Mark Wolfinger: From Ph.D. to the Trading Floor, the Story Behind His Journey

The next guest for BTS is Mark Wolfinger, a retired professional trader who journeyed from conducting lab researches to orchestrating countless number of trades at the CBOE trading pit.  As a retired options veteran, he now educates thousands of readers through his blog mdwoptions and his educational books.

Mark’s interview questions came to life from many of his followers via the request feature.  The readers had a variety of worthy questions, and Mark responded with value adding stories.  Read on to get the wisdom of this informed trader with more than 30 years of experience.

“Mark, can you walk us through your career roadmap? I’d love to know more about your experience as a Ph.D., your involvement at the CBOE pits, and your career as a writer/blogger/educator.”

That question encompasses a bunch of topics and most of my lifetime.  After Brooklyn College, I went to Northwestern University in the fall of 1963, and fell in love with the Chicago area.  I spent 4 1/2 years at Northwestern, and when I was not in the lab conducting my research, I could be found playing bridge in local clubs.  I attended larger, out of town tournaments, when time permitted.

After graduation, I was hired by Monsanto as a senior research chemist in 1968, at what to me was a great salary of almost $17,000 per year.  I moved to a suburb of St. Louis and was soon transferred to Akron, Ohio.  That’s where I met Sandy, one of my bridge friends who was a branch manager for Bache (now part of Prudential), a national brokerage firm.  In 1976, he bought a CBOE membership and was commuting home on weekends (and found time to chat we me about his CBOE experiences) to be with his family.

I had already been trading options (since 1975) and was very interested in what he was doing.  To make a long story short, a relative of his wanted to buy a CBOE seat, but wanted someone else to do the on-floor trading.  That’s when Sandy recommended me.  I met with the seat owner, we connected, and he hired me.  Thus, there’s not that much to report about my experiences as a chemist.  It was a short career

I received some training by First Options, a clearing firm, including the fact that options have theoretical values.  I learned how to use the computers of that time and learned how to value options – something that many of the market makers at the time eschewed.

Stories about the pits are not easy to describe.  It was constant personal battles in our pit.  Other pits acted as a group; ours provided very competitive markets for the public customers.  We did anything to undercut each other, to the benefit of our customers.  That’s not the path to big profits for market makers, and one of the main reasons I reject all those who blame market makers for any and all problems they have when trading options.

“Well, you have had quite a change migrating from Ph.D. in Chemistry to market maker.  What was the motivation behind it?”

This is not going to sound ‘right,’ but I never loved chemistry.  I was good at it, and just continued taking classes.  I had no real career guidance and had no idea that this was not a good profession for me.  I had always loved the idea of playing games, and trading is a very big game with very big prizes.  I never gave any consideration to becoming a trader, until offered the opportunity to trade for a living.  I made a quick decision to try it.

As an avid game player, I found trading to be thrilling and a real-world, full-time game. The ability to work for myself, the chance to earn some good money, and I suppose the ability to leave the laboratory and work in an exciting environment was too much to resist.

“Can you tell us more about your trading experiences? In particular, what were some of the obstacles faced throughout your career? Any hard lessons learned?”

I faced one huge obstacle: Mark Wolfinger.  I was given excellent advice and guidance.  I was told how important it was to minimize risk and protect one’s assets.  I heard it, but so what?  I was gaining confidence quickly and understood how to make money. However, that big obstacle, whose badge was ‘WOL,’ got in the way.  I took risks, collected the rewards, and took more risks.

Eventually I lost the risk wager and took a big hit when the market surged in Apr 1978.  I was just short too many call options, naked.  I had not covered my shorts when I could have paid 1/8 or 1/16 (we traded in fractions at that time).  Why waste money buying back worthless garbage?  Today, I know better, and do what I can to pass along that lesson.  Some listen; some don’t.  It’s one of life’s lessons that cannot be taught by listening to others.  Too many traders need to get hammered for themselves before they get it.

“Discipline” is the name of the game.

“So how did you become the expert in options? What does it take to get there?”

I try to keep things as simple as possible; I do not try to earn the maximum edge on every trade.  I do not go to the expense of trading flat (neutral) every Greek.  I do not try to trade for a few pennies per trade. That’s for big time professionals with huge computer power and large trading staffs.  I concentrate on strategies that are easy to understand and for which the risk can be managed.

My expertise is in education.  I’m well-suited to be an educator for the world of rookies and beginners.  Sure, I can provide guidance for the more experienced traders, but my ‘expertise’ is in making the world of options understandable to the person who wants to learn how to use options.

I’m not a believer in recommending specific strategies as the solution.  I’m nothing like those online hypesters who claim ‘make 10% every month.’  Instead I’m a believer in teaching people to make their own decisions.  I explain what I do for my trading and the rationale behind my choices, but always make it clear that these choices may be unsuitable for the client or reader.  Thinking for yourself is where my emphasis lies.  To me, that’s the best way to be fair to the readers and give them the best chance to succeed.

To ‘get there’ is similar to many things in life.  Practice and more practice.  That does not mean only paper trading.  It means trading and learning.  There’s a popular theory among psychologists that it requires 10,000 hours of practice before you can call yourself an expert.  That’s a long time and requires dedication.  I have no idea if it applies to options trading, but no one can become an expert overnight.

“Right.  That’s for sure.  Now, what is your current trading style?”

I sell premium, but never naked.  The only exception, and I seldom do this, is to sell a naked put if and only if I want to buy shares at a discount to today’s price. I also sell credit spreads, often as iron condors.

Furthermore, I protect the downside because I think this economy is a disaster and I do not understand why the DOW is 10,000 and not 5,000.  I am not a good prognosticator, so cannot afford to trade from the short side.  However, I can own positions that earn a profit on a black swan opening.

Lastly, don’t be greedy.  Don’t wait for expiration.  Don’t collect the last few nickels on a trade.  Adjust positions when needed (or before it’s needed) to preserve assets.

These are the hallmarks of a very conservative trader.  I was much more aggressive in recent years, and I would never encourage anyone to own a portfolio that is similar to mine.  But I encourage accepting my belief that successful risk management is the key factor that determines a trader’s long-term success.

“Lastly, what is your perspective on trading for a living?”

It’s difficult.  It takes discipline, and it requires one not to depend on profits immediately for living expenses.  While it’s true that some strategies may provide earnings immediately, you cannot assume immediate success.

A professional trader cannot ‘need’ to make money this month to pay the bills.  Therefore, if you have the comfort of a cash reserve, if you have the patience to learn, if your family is supportive, if you learn before trading, and if you gain some experience first, then you have a chance to become a successful, full-time trader.

Now keep in mind that not everyone can succeed at this profession just as not everyone can be a professional athlete.  There are psychological considerations and personality traits that play a big role.  If you have no discipline, you have no chance (unless you want to gamble, and I don’t recommend that.)

Mark, thanks for the pleasant conversation.  Many readers are learning from your wisdom, and we hope you continue to educate the curious.

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  2. Jesse says:

    Thanks for your generosity in sharing your trading experience and in particular, your trading knowledge to the trading world. We need some more sincere and dedicated authors like you who can contribute their expertise from heart.

  3. Andy says:

    Thanks for an interesting interview. I had a few questions for Mark:

    Can you elaborate on “We did anything to undercut each other, to the benefit of our customers.”? Were your customers individuals or big companies? Did you ‘undercut’ each other by offering slightly better trades than the previous person? Were friendships destroyed that way?

    I was wondering if you had more anecdotes about how big events in the market affected your trading style… like the crash of the 1980′s and the tech bubble and bust earlier this decade. How much did the latest crash affect you and how well did your practice of ‘insuring’ your trades protect you compared to others?

    Finally, do you feel your scientific background has given you a unique perspective on the market? I hear about many traders who let ‘instinct’ and enthusiasm guide their decisions, but I appreciate your method of analyzing the numbers and greeks before and after entering a trade… that’s something most of us could probably do more of.

    Thanks again,
    Andy

  4. 1) Many times it’s impossible to know who our customer is. If we the saw the Goldman Sachs broker enter the trading pit with an order (remember this was before electronic trading) we would never know if the customer was the firm itself, or one of its retail clients. Even if it was a larger order, there was no way to know. We were allowed to ask if it was a ‘firm; or customer order, but who knows if they told the truth.

    Yes, we tightened bid/ask quotes. If I was 2 bid, 2 1/4 asked, someone else might make it 2 1/16 by 2 3/16. And I would do the same. That’s the way competitive markets are supposed to work, but few if any traders acted that way. But we did.

    People who entered trades in HWP (the old symbol for HPQ) received fair (or better) prices on their trades.

    Some friendships were solid. But we had some pairings that were tense, and filled with anger. That seems so wrong now, but there were several situations with constant hard feelings.

    2) I left the exchange in 2000, and thus cannot report as a market maker on the tech bubble of 2001 or last year’s debacle. Yes, insurance made a big difference for me. I am not telling you I came out ahead, fir I didn’t. But I was satisfied with last year’s results of a small loss. Better risk management would have achieved far better results.

    In October 1987, I was trading off-the-floor for a bigger trading firm. I had bought in a couple of thousand put contracts at 1/16 as a precautionary move – and that made a gigantic difference.

    But I still had negative gamma and Black Monday was the worst trading day of my career. The good news is that I did not go kaput and was able to stay in business.

    If such a move happens again, I will not incur any losses. Thus, my trading style has changed.

    3) The truth is that my chemistry background was not useful in any way.

    Although it’s difficult to measure, I’m sure my facility with numbers and ability to act quickly and make rapid decisions was an important factor in my P/L as a market maker.

    Using the Greeks, or using any risk management techniques, requires that the trader understand that he/she is not invincible and that taking open-ended risk is dangerous. Taking that risk is rewarding most of the time (after all, the probability of success is high). That’s the really dangerous part – profits are expected and risk seems to be something to ignore.

    When that unlikely event occurs, as it must, the huge loss tends to be be far too costly, and exceeds all profits earned when taking the big risk.

    Yes, most traders can benefit from thinking about what can happen, but sadly, this seems to be one situation that far too many people must learn for themselves.

    Some traders may have a true instinct. But they are the rarity and what they do cannot be taught to others. The rest of us must manage risk well and proper position sizing – at the time the trade is made – is the best and simplest thing you can do to prosper over the long term.

    Andy – I thank you.

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